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Mac apps come in three different flavours: PowerPC, Universal and Intel. As you’d expect, the latter is fine, as all Macs these days run with Intel processors. Universal is similarly problem-free, as it includes both Intel and PowerPC support – the only problem being that this dual support increases the file size of these apps and eats up.
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- Intel Macs refers to the newer Macintosh computers (since January 2006) that use Intel's CISC processors. Intel Macs uses EFI instead of BIOS and can run the latest versions of Mac OS X. Intel Macs are also able to run PowerPC compiled applications through a translation layer called Rosetta which is optionally installed in 10.6.
- Quite a few people still have Power Mac G5s kicking around, and quite a few people have iMac G3s around as well. That's our guess of what still has the most ground in the PowerPC World. The PPC Archive team ourselves has a variety of machines, ranging from iMac G3s, Blue and Whites, iBooks, PowerBooks, and G5 systems!
- One can not extrapolate what happened during the transition of PowerPC to Intel, the similar might happen from Intel to Apple Si. I can say that when MAC with Apple Si comes out.
- I have my Mac mini G4 hooked up to the TV in the living room that acts pretty much exclusively as a game console for older PowerPC games that never made it to Intel. Apple kinda quietly released one last PowerPC Mac mini in 2005 that has a 1.5 GHz G4 with Velocity Engine, Radeon 9200, up to 1GB of ram, and an 80GB hdd.
- You will also need access to both an Intel-based and a PowerPC-based Mac. The normal disk formatting scheme you would use for booting an Intel-based Mac is GUID. For a proper dual-boot device.
- Intel Macs refers to the newer Macintosh computers (since January 2006) that use Intel's CISC processors. Intel Macs uses EFI instead of BIOS and can run the latest versions of Mac OS X. Intel Macs are also able to run PowerPC compiled applications through a translation layer called Rosetta which is optionally installed in 10.6.
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I was having this exact problem with PPC apps (a few bounces and then nothing after working properly earlier), and I managed to get rid of it by uninstalling Unsanity's application enhancer. Of course, if you are having the problem and you don't have the APE, then my suggestion doesn't matter! :)
Not running UAE here on my new macbook pro 17 and I had this issue once with Filemaker Pro 5.5 (yeah we need to upgrade..). It happened on my second run of the app and I rebooted to solve it at that time as well. Luckily I haven't a repeat of the issue.
This has happened to me a couple times in the week since my MacBook arrived. But I've noticed that 1) it's only M$ Word that fails to open while Excel still seems fine; and 2) it started on the reboot after I ran Monolingual. So this hint would seem to make sense.
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Same problem on a MacBook Pro 17
Entourage (sometime bouncing and not launching)
Flash 8 (crash at launch)
both are solved restarting the mac.
Anyone knows if it can be really to Application Enhancer ? (if I deactivated it , nothing change)
This problem is annoying! About six weeks ago I bought a refurbed Mac mini knowing it was only a matter of time before I'd be getting a MacBook (of course we were guessing at the name back then) and that at least one of my labs at work would be replaced sometime this year. So I wanted experience with the Intel machines. In all the banging around I did on the mini I never once saw Rosetta fail like this.
The mini and my MacBook are configured exactly the same way - I have exactly the same software on both. But the second day I owned the MacBook I started having PPC programs failing to launch and rarer, right after launching would crash as soon as I attempted to interact with it. A restart always solved it—until it came back. Given that the mini and the MacBook architecture are so similar, I wonder why it happens on one but not the other? Is it isolated to MacBook owners?
I have had the same issues and can add Photoshop Elements to the list of Apps that fail to launch. Terminating 'translated' in the Activity Monitor fixes all. I too ran monlingual and run APE. Has everyone else who has this issue ran monlingual or are running APE? Interestingly my MacBook was set up via migration assistant from a MacBook Pro with exactly the same setup yet it does not suffer the same problems.
I've found Office V.X (Word, Excel) won't start on an Intel iMac (they crash) if you click on their application icon in the dock, but if you open a document they run fine.
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My iMac (Intel) doesn't have these issues with M$ (or any other PPC applications) yet.
Sorry for you, guys
(cross fingers)
I have been having similar problems with anything Adobe but primarily Photoshop CS2 and Photoelements 4. I beleive the issue is related to Unsanity but in discussion with one of their programmers, we can't identify the issue. Fruitmenu appears to be one component, because it seems to have more impact on no startup of adobe..whereas cleardock seems fine.
Killing the 'translated' process works well enough for me to keep using Photoshop and doesn't appear to have any damaging affect.
I'm surprised that there has not been more response in various forums.
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Running 10.4.7 on a white MacBook, I started having this problem with all the Rosetta apps I tried to use:
MS Word
Windows Media Player 9 (needed since Flip4Mac doesn't run at all yet)
a little Lacie backup application (SilverKeeper).
Killing 'translated' seems to have worked for all three. Thanks!
Killing 'translated' worked on my MacBook Pro. I am having the launching issue with Entourage and Quicken 2006.
I do have Windowshade installed and active (very hard to live without on a laptop).
Tom
This is excellent information and 'right-on' it seems to my problem. If I understand correctly, if a program (like Adobe Reader 7.0.8) does not start, then I can use the force-quit command and in there I will see a line-item called 'Translator' which I force quit; and then (without restarting) I can launch Adobe Reader. Is that correct?
Thanks for this feedback and any additional comments or web site references appreciated.
Steve Schulte 15 Sept 2006
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Steve Schulte - MacBook OX 10.4.7 PBG4 10.3.9 eMac 10.3.9 G4733 10.4.7 and Mac SE 6.0.4
Steve,
Do this:
1) Open Applications -> Utilities -> Activity Monitor
2) In the toolbar, select 'All Processes' on the drop-menu
3) In the toolbar, type in 'translated' in the search box
4) In the process list, you should see a process called 'translated' owned by the 'root' user.
5) Click on the 'translated' process
6) In the toolbar, click on the 'Quit Process' button
It will prompt you for your password (security and what not).
Once the process is killed, you should be able to open the non-launching PowerPC app (Word, Excel, Photoshop, etc).
Alternatively, I've gotten rid of this problem by removing the 3rd party System Prefs plugin Application Enhancer since I no longer use WindowShades and that fixes the problem for good.
cheers,
Etienne
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Unfortunately remove APE improves, but does not fix the problem. See this thread (with a reply from the Unsanity guy): 10.4: Another fix for non-launching PowerPC apps on Intel
I've noticed this same issues but it is brand new to me. I just installed Logitech's Control Center software for my new MX Revolution mouse, and now am having issues with launching.
Hint does NOT work for me for MS Word v.X and 2004 on a MacBook Pro
Originally i had Office v.X.
Word & Power Point would crash on start with
Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)
Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE (0x0002) at 0x00000000
So i installed Office v.2004. IIRC, the new versions seemed to start just fine after the install. Then they failed. This translate hint didn't work.
I thought i solved my problem by cleaning out the Font Book of all fonts that wouldn't validate. Since both versions of Office seemed happy, i ditched the 2004 version of Office.
Now Word is back to failing. Fonts are all happy. Translate hint still doesn't work. Removing ~/Library/Preferences/com.microsoft.Word.plist doesn't work. (That's the only Word preference file.)
Powerpoint and Excel still work.
The only change i can think of, since the apparently successful migration from my iBook (and trouble free use of Excel for weeks, and i think Word was working..) was the installation of Parallels, then Win XP, then several GIS packages on the Win partition.
Thanks for letting me rant; hope this is sort of on topic at least.
I to have been seeing this issue since the last security update. Before that I had this issue once, months ago and this tips worked.
Two hours ago I could open one Rosetta app, close it, open another, now I can't open any. I reboot will fix and apps will open fine for awhile, but then all of a sudden they won't open anymore.
Weird.
Best wishes
Michael
Sounds like I can top everyone's list of applications that fail to launch or crash after launch: MS Word, Powerpoint, Excel, Quicken 2003, Acrobat 6 Professional. It's only just started to happen after running them successfullly for a few months on my Black MacBook.
Missing Sync has also started playing up but not sure if it's the same problem.
Appreciate any suggestions.
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Steve
fixed the problem by reinstalling 10.4.8 didn't need to do a clean reinstall.
Took the option of creating a Previous System folder.
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Steve
I was so excited to find this hint, as I have been struggling with the issue with Office apps and InDesign. To my dismay, the hint doesn't work for me. Only a restart will fix the issue, and of course, this is only temporary.
Does anyone have any other suggestions for a fix for this?
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I tried, but it didn't work on my Office v.X
Does anyone have further ideas?
Where is 'translate'?
(Apologies, I'm not as savvy as I wish I were.)
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I also have this problem - all of office not working plus arobat and adobe applications. They also won't open on reboot so my computer is useless except for the internet. I have tried inputing the code in terminal but it hasn't worked. Can anyone help?
Thanks,
Luke
Apple’s plan to move its Mac family of computers from Intel’s Core-series CPUs to self-developed ARM processors has been an open secret for years, with each new macOS release — and subsequent small hints to developers — helping to ease the eventual transition. Today, Apple made the impending switch official, letting developers and customers know during its WWDC 2020 keynote that it will start the chip transition to Apple silicon this year.
The company’s recent struggles with Intel chips are well documented, reportedly including the redesign of entire laptops,thermal performance controversies, and even postponing its first 5G iPhones due to chip development problems. Meanwhile, Apple’s internal chip teams forged ahead with industry-leading smartphone and tablet chips, setting the stage for ARM-powered laptops. Apple chip lead Johny Srouji notes that the X-suffix processors built for the iPad now deliver 1,000 times the graphics performance of the original model after just 10 years, while the Apple Watch has achieved best-in-class performance for its size. The company has delivered 2 billion total system-on-chip (SoC) processors since it began producing its own CPUs.
Performance alone is just one advantage Apple will achieve, Srouji says; other benefits will include better power management, a superior Secure Enclave, and higher performance GPU than before — plus Neural Engine improvements for AI. There will be a family of Mac-specific SoCs, using a common architecture across all of Apple’s product lines.
If there was any question whether Apple could make a Mac-caliber processor, that was extinguished with the 2018 release of the third-generation iPad Pro. Backed by the Apple A12X Bionic chip, that model roughly matched the performance of Intel Core i7 MacBook Pro laptops in single- and multi-core tests; graphics compute benchmarks were roughly equivalent to Microsoft’s Xbox One S console.
Initially, Apple will transition developers over to the new ARM chip using the same A12Z Bionic chip found in the latest 2020 iPad Pro. Released in March, the 2020 iPad Pro delivers around 10% better GPU performance than its 2018 predecessor, but much bigger changes are likely in store for the unnamed Mac-specific chips. It appears increasingly likely that those chips will have their own name, separate from the A-series branding of iPhone and iPad processors.
Above: Tomb Raider running under emulation on a Mac with Apple silicon.
To support old and new apps, Apple will use Rosetta 2, integrated emulation software, to enable ARM-based Macs to run Intel code. In the prior PowerPC to Intel transition, Apple used Rosetta to let PowerPC apps run with performance compromises on new Intel machines, but Apple says the performance should be much faster for Intel apps running on ARM Macs. Additionally, ARM Macs will be able to run unmodified iPadOS and iOS apps, however, Intel Macs will not be able to do so unless the iPadOS and iOS apps are updated.
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Apple says that it will ship its first ARM Mac by the end of 2020, and plans for a two-year full transition. It’s worth noting that similar language was used ahead of the Intel switchover in 2005, but Apple completed the move “ahead of schedule” in only a year. In the interim, developers will have access to an A12Z-based Mac mini Developer Transition Kit. The machine will include 16GB of RAM and a 512GB SSD for storage, but will not be available to regular consumers.
The decision to take the hard road of releasing a developer-only ARM Mac is particularly interesting given the easier alternative — enabling an off-the-shelf iPad with similar components (and a Magic Keyboard accessory) to run macOS instead. Although this might have thrilled the millions of people who have hoped for years to see an Apple tablet with the choice between macOS and iPad OS options, Apple apparently doesn’t want to give iPad users false hope for such a device, or possibly tip its hand by letting developers play with a touchscreen or convertible form factor Mac when no such option is available in its laptop lineup.
This just-for-developers platform follows the same strategy Apple employed with the Intel-based DTK 15 years ago, when it placed a small but powerful Pentium 4 motherboard inside its prior PowerMac G5 casing, and offered a custom Mac operating system — 10.4.1 — that could run PowerPC apps under emulation on Intel’s chips. While the first Intel Macs actually launched with superior, next-generation Core-series processors, the DTK let developers experience worst-case legacy app performance, and hopefully do better before the consumer Mac release.
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Apple required all Intel DTK units to be returned after one year, giving developers the first Intel-based iMac in exchange — a policy that led most of the leased development hardware to disappear, with relatively few remaining units winding up in collectors’ hands. We’ll have to see whether the ARM-based version becomes a similarly obscure collectible.
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Interested developers can apply for the Mac mini Developer Transition Kit hardware starting this week. The Kit will come with a beta version of macOS Big Sur for testing purposes and cost $500, with the requirement that the DTK be returned “at the end of the program” — potentially for a more powerful Mac mini with final Mac-specific silicon inside.